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🔗 And you can hear ever so one and two on the B.B.C. Radio website now.
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🔗 an electrical shop and in the future the ideas
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🔗 The world one this is Martha County with forty five minutes of news and comment.
🔗 A doctor in the besieged Syrian city of Aleppo who made a heartfelt plea to
🔗 President Obama has accused the Asaad government of using chemical weapons.
🔗 Yesterday there's a current.
🔗 In and on the people here about three people has died.
🔗 About eighteen people has endured.
🔗 Will hear about life inside the city and whether a diplomatic solution is possible.
🔗 The Labor Party is back in the courts over its leadership contest a former German
🔗 Koeppen supporter tells us why he's no longer backing his Leda.
🔗 There's been a portion of the media that
🔗 that has engaged in more than string of the worst worst kind.
🔗 But none of that is mutually exclusive.
🔗 We seem not being very good at his job at Jeremy Koeppen supporter leader of the
🔗 Socialist Party joins us live.
🔗 Also today.
🔗 How the Americans for Michael Phelps could suppose the Olympic success of the late
🔗 great lay on the death of Rhodes to B.B.C. News is read by Alan Smith.
🔗 Russia has suspended military activity in the Syrian city of Aleppo for three hours
🔗 to enable the delivery of aid supplies for trapped civilians
🔗 but there are reports
🔗 that rebel held areas face continued shelling with fierce fighting with.
🔗 Uming at the end of the pause the head of the United Nations Humanitarian task
🔗 force in Syria yell Egland has warned
🔗 that the ceasefire to be repeated daily is too brief.
🔗 He said Moscow has agreed to hold talks with U.N.
🔗 Officials in the coming hours to discuss what he called a workable humanitarian
🔗 pause here as our Arab affairs editor Sebastian Usher.
🔗 The three hours of the unilaterally announced Russian cease fire appear to have had
🔗 little effect on the fighting in Aleppo.
🔗 Currently the key battle field in the Syrian conflict shelling from the ground of
🔗 rebel held areas is reported to have continued during the brief lull in strikes
🔗 but those air attacks appear to have resumed with considerable ferocity.
🔗 As soon as the pools ended at one o'clock local time.
🔗 The focus of the fighting is in the southwestern outskirts of the divided city
🔗 pro-government forces backed by Russian planes are battling to force back a rebel
🔗 alliance which has succeeded in breaking the government siege of their areas
🔗 and reopening a supply route for themselves.
🔗 The Russian pause in fighting was intended to get humanitarian aid in to the
🔗 hundreds of thousands of trap civilians in Aleppo.
🔗 But the UN has reiterated that this is quite inadequate
🔗 that a truce of at least forty eight hours is needed.
🔗 The German interior minister has said citizens with Jule nationality should be
🔗 stripped of their German passports if they fight abroad for terror groups.
🔗 Tomas' them as yet who announced a series of measures to strengthen security also
🔗 said some foreign criminals should be deported more quickly.
🔗 Our correspondent Jenny Hill reports from Berlin.
🔗 This is the German government's response to a series of violent attacks last month
🔗 to the which are thought to have been inspired by the Islamic state terror group
🔗 today the country's interior minister Thomas Timothy a promised thousands of new
🔗 police officers move money for the security services and better cyber intelligence.
🔗 Mr Dimaggio promised tough action on people who represent a threat to.
🔗 And security.
🔗 He said the Germans with Jule nationality who travel overseas to fight with I.A.S.
🔗 Will be stripped of their German passport the country has yet to experience a major
🔗 coordinated terror attack on the scan of those perpetrated in Paris or Brussels
🔗 that security sources say the risk of such an attack is high the deputy head of the
🔗 Bavarian Intelligence Agency has told the B.B.C.
🔗 that His agents are investigating substantial reports that I S.
🔗 Has sent so-called hit squads into the country to prepare acts of terror the Court
🔗 of Appeal has begun hearing a challenge to a previous ruling on who can vote in
🔗 Labor's leadership election the party's national executive committee wants to
🔗 restrict the electorate to people who by July the twelfth had been members for at
🔗 least six months on Monday the high court said
🔗 that would unfairly disenfranchise those who'd recently signed up to the party.
🔗 Here's all political correspondent Kelly Price Labor's appeal hinges on this
🔗 argument that the actual executive committee Labor's governing body
🔗 and not the courts should have the final say over who can vote in the party's
🔗 leadership elections on Monday the high court upheld a legal challenge to a rule
🔗 that bans anyone who joined up after the twelfth of January.
🔗 Unless they paid an extra twenty five pounds if Labour's appeal fails the party's
🔗 almost one hundred twenty seven thousand new joint is will increase the electorate
🔗 in the leadership contest to about half a million privately both leadership
🔗 candidates believe the majority of them are more likely to back.
🔗 Jeremy Corbin ballot papers are due to be sent out on the twenty second of August
🔗 with the results announced just over a month later on the twenty fourth of
🔗 September the Labor leadership challenge in SMITH Well to extend the contest by two
🔗 weeks because of concerns that legal challenges have caused on certainty
🔗 and delays.
🔗 The police have launched an investigation after a drone flew alongside a passenger
🔗 plane as it came. Interland new key airport in Cornwall on Tuesday afternoon.
🔗 A search was conducted. But neither the drone nor its operator were found.
🔗 Detectives have described the incident as incredibly concerning
🔗 and have accused the person flying the drone of having a complete disregard for
🔗 public safety.
🔗 Police are investigating claims his a British junior tennis player was poisoned at
🔗 Wimbledon Gabrielle a tailor spent four days in intensive care after becoming on
🔗 well during a match with more.
🔗 Here's our correspondent Don Johnson Gabrielle
🔗 or Taylor was playing in the Wimbledon girls' quarter final
🔗 when she was forced to retire through illness.
🔗 What looked like a stomach bug turned out to be much more serious the eighteen year
🔗 old spent four days in intensive care at Southampton General Hospital A mother said
🔗 she looked close to death.
🔗 Doctors eventually diagnosed arrest reign of a bacterial disease called
🔗 leptospirosis something usually passed to humans from animals.
🔗 or describe it as the worst experience of her life she's returned to training this
🔗 week Scotland Yard has confirmed it is investigating an allegation of poisoning
🔗 with intent to endanger life or cause grievous bodily harm.
🔗 During the Wimbledon championships.
🔗 It said medical tests were still being conducted to establish exactly what the
🔗 alleged poison was. Figures released by N.H.S.
🔗 England show just over ninety percent of accident
🔗 and emergency patients were seen within four hours in June.
🔗 That's a slight improvement on the previous month's figures
🔗 but still below the target of ninety five percent just over sixty nine percent of
🔗 ambulances reach the most serious call outs within eight minutes the target is
🔗 seventy five percent. Waiting time targets for planned operations were also missed.
🔗 Cricket saying going to made a bad start to the decisive fourth Test against
🔗 Pakistan at The Oval the home side won the toss
🔗 but could reach only ninety two for lunch. Alan thank you.
🔗 The police from doctors under siege in Aleppo is heartfelt in this letter to
🔗 present a bomber. They make clear the situation is dire and
🔗 that people in the Syrian city risk starvation.
🔗 Unless a permanent lifeline to Aleppo is opened it will be only a matter of time
🔗 until we are again surrounded by regime troops hunger takes hold
🔗 and hospitals supplies run completely dry death has seemed increasingly inescapable.
🔗 We do not need to tell you
🔗 that the systematic targeting of hospitals by Syrian regime
🔗 and Russian warplanes is a war crime.
🔗 We do not need to tell you that they are committing atrocities in Aleppo.
🔗 We do not need tears or sympathy or even press.
🔗 We need your action prove that you are the friend of Syrians.
🔗 Fierce fighting has resumed in the southwestern outskirts of Aleppo shortly after a
🔗 three hour ceasefire announced by Russia ended Mosca says
🔗 that was total out humanitarian aid in but the United Nations says
🔗 that the pause which will be repeated daily is too brief to help trap civilians
🔗 but the head of the humanitarian task force in Syria.
🔗 Yan Egland told reporters
🔗 that the truce had to be extended to two days we need forty eight hours because the
🔗 people are so many that the convoys have to be bake the road is sold destroyed.
🔗 It is mind there are so many dangers the logistics arsehole enormous
🔗 that we do need time each week and we need forty eight hours.
🔗 Opposition activists claim
🔗 that people have been killed in what was alleged to have been a chlorine gas attack
🔗 I've been talking talking to doctor for Rita Al moves Lamb one of the doctors who
🔗 signed the letter to President Obama.
🔗 She works in a maternity hospital in Aleppo asked what it was like for a woman to
🔗 give birth in her ward.
🔗 It's a horrible experience for a new woman variable
🔗 when she comes to the world because the back door was the last back of the many
🔗 times so many women.
🔗 And they came to the hospital to get there or they are afraid
🔗 and all are a fiction of this ition of there is a very big
🔗 but now we can't the world as the external ruins because the most of them are
🔗 Yesterday there is occurring gas barrel in
🔗 and on people here about three people has died.
🔗 And about eighteen people has endured by ignoring gases.
🔗 How can you be sure
🔗 that it's chlorine gas because obviously that's a very serious accusation.
🔗 I'm not sure I wasn't there
🔗 but Dr Baird has now the smell of urine
🔗 and symptoms
🔗 that people if they are poisoned by a something which is not nothing abnormal
🔗 something abnormal.
🔗 Why did doctors like yourself decide to write to President Obama.
🔗 Because they want all the words to know what is happening in a nipple.
🔗 It's a war crime.
🔗 There is e-mail targeting the hospital that regime is targeting
🔗 that occurred there you missed our getting the civilians.
🔗 When you hear a little any piece of the worst of the world
🔗 when you lose any piece of God got his ground.
🔗 He will learn he will target the civilians.
🔗 Every every every day you target the civilians and the next to my house
🔗 and next to the school of my daughter.
🔗 In the mosque because he's always targeting the mosque
🔗 and on the pro What exactly is the help
🔗 that you want from President Obama the stuff that's getting the civilians.
🔗 And the two more two over to finish the season on the pro. Is a year.
🔗 They said it is the seat is being Procter and
🔗 but it's not sickly it's not the broken Exactly and. Good now we are under the sea.
🔗 You are normal and no medications are in their college brawl
🔗 nor see you just listen I'm on food just nothing else.
🔗 Dr Frieden ALMAs learned Syrian military officials have denied the allegations of a
🔗 chlorine attack contending that they were fabricated by the political opposition.
🔗 James Robbins is our diplomatic correspondent
🔗 and joins us now to put some of this into context some what exactly does unless is
🔗 calling for. Well we had didn't we don't afraid to say
🔗 that they wanted to see the end of the targeting of civilians
🔗 and the finish of the siege of Aleppo.
🔗 I don't see
🔗 that that's going to come about in the near future because both sides actually are
🔗 using besiegement laying siege as a weapon in this battle for Aleppo which both
🔗 sides both the government side
🔗 and the rebels see as absolutely critical to the entire future of this five year
🔗 long civil war
🔗 when I say both sides are using besiegement the government side has almost
🔗 encircled the entire eastern district of Aleppo containing some two hundred fifty
🔗 to three hundred thousand civilians there a very much larger number of citizens in
🔗 western areas of the city who are to some significant extent cut off from supplies
🔗 by the effect in this of rebels who operate outside the city.
🔗 So all the citizens of Aleppo are at risk
🔗 but I think going back to the doctor's letter.
🔗 It's really important because this letter because it is so very human.
🔗 So very personal
🔗 and it's first hand testimony as want to quote you one other section from the
🔗 letter from these twenty nine doctors what pains us most as doctors is choosing who
🔗 will live
🔗 and who will die young children are sometimes brought into our emergency rooms so
🔗 badly injured.
🔗 We have to prioritize those with better chances
🔗 or simply we don't have the equipment to help them two weeks ago they write for
🔗 newborn babies gasping for air suffocated to death after a blast cut.
🔗 The oxygen supply to their incubate is gasping for air their lives ended before
🔗 they had really begun.
🔗 So this is a real plea from the heart and a plea not just to President Obama
🔗 but I think to the entire world actually.
🔗 To try to mobilize greater action to bring a diplomatic solution this certainly
🔗 isn't a military solution
🔗 but some form of domestic solution to this horrible civil war.
🔗 How realistic are those aims.
🔗 It looks hopelessly mired at the moment I have to say because on one side you have
🔗 leadership by the United States
🔗 and on the other by Russia who are supposed to be coordinating at coordinating
🔗 efforts to bring peace to Syria.
🔗 That seems rather extraordinary when you remember that they're on opposite sides
🔗 and the Russians clearly are not abandoning their ally President as sad as has been
🔗 demanded by many in the West and in the United States
🔗 that seems to be absolute deadlock in the talks process and I think you can hear.
🔗 Despite all their diplomatic optimism you can hear when you listen to U.N.
🔗 Officials a sense of terrible resignation after all how they feel insulted actually
🔗 they stressed several times this morning speaking in Geneva
🔗 that they weren't even consulted by the Russians about the idea of a three hour
🔗 pause in fighting they feel offended not just because it matters what their
🔗 feelings are but because they would have told them
🔗 and are telling them three hours from their perspective is useless.
🔗 You can achieve very little trying to bring supplies through mind roads into a city
🔗 in three hours they want forty eight hours minimum
🔗 and you can see how this deadlock has come about if you look at the historical
🔗 context. You absolutely can.
🔗 I mean let's step back a bit and remind ourselves that Russia
🔗 and before Russia the Soviet Union frankly regarded and still regard Syria.
🔗 As if you like they're a part of their sphere of influence
🔗 and President Putin has made clear repeatedly
🔗 that he's not prepared anywhere in the world really to see what he regards as
🔗 Western hegemony western dominance to be extended. He doesn't want it to happen.
🔗 In East
🔗 and Central Europe he said he doesn't want to see Syria for as he would see it out
🔗 of his fear of inference.
🔗 that sort of background frankly whatever the public rhetoric it's pretty hard to
🔗 see how a divide so deep is going to be is going to be bridged. James Robbins.
🔗 Many thanks to the fractious Paxil for the soul of the Labor party ended up in
🔗 court again today.
🔗 The party's ruling body is accused the High Court judge of getting it wrong
🔗 when he decided
🔗 that new party members were legally entitled to vote in the forthcoming leadership
🔗 The decision is being read as a base to Jeremy Corbyn as most new members are
🔗 expected to support him in his contest against his rival own Smith.
🔗 The chair of own Smith's digit campaign has formally called on the Labor Party to
🔗 grant a two week extension to the contest outside his home this morning Jeremy
🔗 Corbyn was asked about a claim by Labor's deputy Tom Watson
🔗 that left wing groups are attempting to join the party.
🔗 As Tom Watson says Are you allowing Trotskyist in the hard labor in the trade labor.
🔗 What do you make of the game.
🔗 Remember to thank you so much for coming in really nice to see.
🔗 So what is going on in the chip contest Well Alex Andre was a ricer
🔗 and Labor Party member who voted for Jeremy Corbyn in the last contest
🔗 and supported him until recently. So I asked him why he changed his mind.
🔗 Over the European referendum campaign I became increasingly irritated by
🔗 an annuity back if lack of fire and passion and.
🔗 I just thought he was nowhere to be seen for large periods of the referendum
🔗 campaign to be honest and as a European migrant myself.
🔗 That is the red line issue for me.
🔗 There will be people that say
🔗 that Jeremy Corbyn has been very unfairly treated by his M.P.'s by the media.
🔗 He has a I mean there's no doubting that there's no doubting
🔗 that there were you know a small faction of people
🔗 that briefed against him right from the start.
🔗 There's no doubt that there's been a portion of the media that
🔗 that has engaged in sort of monster ing of the worst worst kind.
🔗 All of that is true but none of
🔗 that is mutually exclusive with him not being very good at his job.
🔗 So yes there's been you know a portion of the press in the parliamentary Labor
🔗 party that's been against him from the start.
🔗 But the fact is
🔗 that he has given them plenty of excuses by not being very good at what he's meant
🔗 to be good at. So what will you do in the current leadership contest.
🔗 I will be voting for
🔗 and Smith I have noticed since criticizing Corbin over the European
🔗 referendum campaign I have experienced.
🔗 A really venomous backlash by people who support him
🔗 and have noticed Hatton's in that that I find deeply worrying a sort of.
🔗 Complete resistance to evidence to poll data sort of
🔗 anger and then to establishment
🔗 and to politics often anti democracy vibe
🔗 and I think the Labor Party is in serious peril of becoming a sort of Ukip of
🔗 the left of you know actively pursuing a strategy of appealing to people's
🔗 bassist basest instincts and I think that
🔗 that would be a huge danger in the current situation.
🔗 Alexandra a well yesterday Labor's Deputy Leader Tom Watson ready Jamie called in
🔗 to warn him about infiltration of the Labor Party by left wing factions the ticket
🔗 would be called prescribed organizations attempting to join the party getting
🔗 members of the cell. This party for me.
🔗 Millicent puppy to tough was a founder of militant whose members were ejected from
🔗 labor in the one nine hundred eighty teeth now leader of the Socialist Party
🔗 and joins us now. So we had the views of a former Koeppen supporter.
🔗 Just then yesterday the G.M.B.
🔗 Decided they were going to support in Smith is there any sense
🔗 that the leadership contest isn't as open
🔗 and shut for Jeremy Koeppen is many people of the Sumed Now I don't think they
🔗 indicate a real new that's developing on a broad swathe of opinion in Britain not
🔗 just inside the Labor Party
🔗 but outside the Labor Party including Trade Unionists community activists
🔗 and so on. Joining me. Corbin is going to win this election.
🔗 In fact all the methods of the rice is a bit like Wacom oxide.
🔗 Sometimes the revolution needs the whip of the counter-revolution and we've had
🔗 that in the form of the attempted coup which was defeated
🔗 and supported by Tom Watson let us remember and that means
🔗 that Jeremy Corman will have a from being mandate to carry through really what
🔗 should be a socialist program and if he does win.
🔗 Would you hope to rejoin the Labor Party.
🔗 We would hope to be part of the process of the regeneration of the labor movement
🔗 as a whole
🔗 and particularly of the Labor Party inside the Labor Party of course yes book
🔗 but I have to say this
🔗 that in the aftermath of these events the Labor Party has to be reconfigured
🔗 because we were to set a form of organization last top down less bureaucratic less
🔗 than in the Stalinist mold of Tom Watson with his dossier is
🔗 and so on which are anti created methods of the past.
🔗 Well going back weren't going back to Soviet politics is as you refer to him he
🔗 would say
🔗 that members of your party are attempting to infiltrate the Labor Party
🔗 and he discusses Trotskyist so I was a member of the Labor Party long before Tom
🔗 Watson I was a member of the Labor Party for twenty three years I would.
🔗 Expelled for the crime of standing up for working people in Liverpool and
🔗 that marvelous movement that took place there
🔗 and of defeating Mrs Fattah on the poll tax. We organized eighteen million people.
🔗 The poll fact
🔗 that organization militant was described the time as a secret organization within
🔗 and this is what some people on the rise of Labor Party suspect is happening now.
🔗 Well we would say that wouldn't particularly as we defeated them politically.
🔗 And moreover the being defeated politically now
🔗 and the using the same arguments they used against us of a party within the party
🔗 against momentum against any left opposition
🔗 but then looking a little at Labor's electoral position an opinion poll today has
🔗 labor at twenty six percent.
🔗 Well you see this is a very interesting issue because the argument is put forward
🔗 that Germany Corben should be the seat to because he's on electable in my opinion
🔗 in our opinion the campaign against him is precisely the danger of his electability
🔗 on the program. He's putting forward it will resonate.
🔗 It's a revolution a political revolution is taking place in Britain one stops put
🔗 to the task by think it will get mass support piece attached.
🔗 Thank you for joining us.
🔗 The market is booming in small phone apps which offer women the chance to monitor
🔗 their A personal information the cycles of their monthly periods.
🔗 It's sort of been as many as two hundred million downloads of period tracking apps
🔗 worldwide so far but one of the U.K.'s leading medical royal colleges as well
🔗 and that women shouldn't use these programs as a form of contraception
🔗 and privies the campaign is say users should be wary of what data they might
🔗 unwillingly be sharing
🔗 when they download some of these apps our health correspondent Jane Draper has been
🔗 investigating. It's something which affects every woman but the days
🔗 when we logged all periods in paper diaries are of course fading.
🔗 I'm sitting at home with my tablet
🔗 and a simple search for period track has brought up doesn't. And dozens of results.
🔗 Some of them. Show lots of charts and tables.
🔗 Others are in delicate hues of pink Some just show pink slips
🔗 or lilac flowers these track apps are proving hugely popular and in the health
🔗 and fitness category.
🔗 They come second only to apps which monitor running
🔗 worse fold has used different period tracking apps the three years.
🔗 She's an opera singer
🔗 and a soprano reaching for the very highest note that's
🔗 a recording of one of Amy's performances because
🔗 when we meet it's her music college in Greenwich south east London.
🔗 It turns out I've picked the one time of the month
🔗 when she avoids singing to hear my voice is quite low.
🔗 It's a little bit crackly gravelly when you are starting your period
🔗 or you're slightly pre-menstrual the hormones
🔗 that rush around your body the sex hormones affect your larynx in ways
🔗 that are detrimental to your singing voice.
🔗 So I use a period tracking app to make sure that I avoid auditions and premieres
🔗 and any really important performances on those days.
🔗 If I count the the Amy we're now uses called clue to plot
🔗 and predict her cycle.
🔗 It also helps her identify connections with changes in her emotions eating habits
🔗 and headaches.
🔗 Being able to chart what happens to you
🔗 and how you uniquely respond to your cycle is a great way of taking ownership of
🔗 that really suck for is completely necessary sometimes women use period trackers to
🔗 monitor their fertility.
🔗 But the Royal College of Obstetricians
🔗 and Gynecologists has warned they shouldn't be used as a form of contraception only
🔗 one such on the market has been.
🔗 Dependently evaluated for effectiveness in this area.
🔗 Generally they aren't classed as medical devices which would involve stricter
🔗 regulation I really wanted to develop the next generation technology for family
🔗 planning and I do believe that we will get there.
🔗 Aged ten is the Danish onto a primary behind close.
🔗 I think there is a way for us to do predictions so acrid
🔗 that women can trust them to not get pregnant. However we are not there yet.
🔗 She's speaking from Berlin. But ten percent of her market is in the U.K.
🔗 Women in Mexico and Brazil have recently shown huge interesting clue.
🔗 Possibly because of fears about getting pregnant during the seeker virus outbreak.
🔗 IJA ten is interested in how anonymised use the data from her free app can be used
🔗 for the greater good and to this end.
🔗 She's collaborating with medical researchers at Oxford University.
🔗 She's built her business on a responsible approach.
🔗 It's a very very powerful tool to really understand data and to use data
🔗 and I feel I can't do you what I would like to do for users
🔗 and listeners data at the same time else appreciate that by doing that.
🔗 I'm asking people for a lot of trust in me
🔗 and a lot of companies like me don't honor
🔗 that trust some of which are more firmly pointed at conception have a clear value
🔗 to advertisers because a woman who's planning a baby is a potential market for
🔗 prams clothing and many other purchases.
🔗 Sam Smith is a privacy campaigner at Med confidential group arguing
🔗 that people should have informed choice for all medical ups
🔗 but especially conception apps the needs to be a source
🔗 that people can trust that is independent that says this app is safe for you.
🔗 You can read the Terms and Conditions.
🔗 Legally you are required to but everybody knows
🔗 that nobody does incentives always to make more money not protects a patient
🔗 customer. Who you've never seen will never see again he believes
🔗 that lack of regulation
🔗 or even official recommendation is a market failure in this area for the moment
🔗 it's a free for all.
🔗 Some Smith's advice is
🔗 that if an app is free consider whether you're paying for it in effect by giving
🔗 away your data and investigate where it might be going.
🔗 Jane Draper Coming up Michael Phelps landed us a Rhodes What's the difference
🔗 leading classes pull college will tell us should trees I'm a go to the country
🔗 early it's a dilemma so very different reasons for both parties
🔗 and one both are wrestling with two political commentators who wrestle over the
🔗 masses in just a few minutes and if you'd like to comment on the program.
🔗 Email us for the website or on Twitter using the hash tag water.
🔗 The American swimmer Michael Phelps will be looking for his twenty second
🔗 and then pick gold medal
🔗 when he competes in the two hundred meter individual medley this evening.
🔗 This is him winning in the two hundred meter fly on Wednesday the
🔗 day the
🔗 all the school
🔗 shootings the St
🔗 Louis the old the
🔗 new the cool.
🔗 The old.
🔗 Phelps now has twelve individual wins
🔗 and if he takes gold tonight he'll suppost the late great lay on the dust of roads
🔗 a winner in the ancient Olympic Games back in the second century B.C.
🔗 Professor Paul cartlidge is a specialist in Greek culture
🔗 and history at the University of Cambridge
🔗 and just described this ancient version of Microsoft to us all over the world
🔗 for success in the limbic free.
🔗 Pretty individual running races they didn't have teams so he couldn't possibly have
🔗 carried the flag
🔗 but he did win the most prestigious of all the events which was the two hundred
🔗 meters we call them two hundred meters it was a study on the word stadium comes
🔗 from that. So for for the fix running between one six four and one five two B. C.
🔗 He was the victor the door. I'm absolutely astonished.
🔗 And we think of the cast these competing in the new to the wood gymnastics comes
🔗 from not very wide but actually they wanted us was running under disadvantage.
🔗 Well he did both with
🔗 and without object to say two of his races the as it were two hundred metres in the
🔗 four hundred metres completely naked.
🔗 But the first type of event which is a very funny. One is called the.
🔗 Hope Lisa's almost the race in heaven he wears a helmet.
🔗 He wears a breastplate he carries quite a heavy shield and he probably will grieve.
🔗 So it's like being.
🔗 You know running the London Marathon in a fancy dress extremely heavy actually
🔗 but probably the same distance as the D.L.
🔗 Loss which was roughly the four hundred metres one lap one lap back.
🔗 Solution to that is
🔗 that heavy Obama perhaps the most noted eyes of the lympics games could take notice.
🔗 Well I'm not sure
🔗 but I think this was a very peculiar thing because ancient Greek culture was very
🔗 both masculinist
🔗 and also quite militaristic so it reflected their culture in a way
🔗 that I hope the modern Olympics more about peace than they are about war the
🔗 ancient limits in a way a kind of Paralympic exercise a very great book certain
🔗 events because we've talked just about running. There was no swimming.
🔗 We've not talked about the really heavy events boxing wrestling
🔗 and playing Pratham which is a kind of combination of judo boxing
🔗 and wrestling no holds.
🔗 and if you think about naked it well it's not a very pleasant thought you don't want
🔗 to know medals presumably for medals just a symbolic only takes in
🔗 other words competitors against. We've forgotten them.
🔗 They're completely forgotten only one.
🔗 Key thing was to be absolutely the top dog
🔗 and actually the whole human pick games would be named after the winner of the two
🔗 hundred meter race it would be the game's all the way
🔗 that you might say the Rio Olympics is the Phelps and then pick say such
🔗 and such was the only that for them pigs.
🔗 Sponsorship deals also
🔗 the case of sponsorship. Possible.
🔗 Bribing of your opponent to run is quite a living
🔗 but they have very severe penalties
🔗 and since it was all religious In other words the ultimate object was to pay
🔗 worship limbus any crime any.
🔗 Misdemeanor it was also a kind of fact really suffered
🔗 and possibly off to death
🔗 but you get to Mill's the life in your home six thousand different Greek cities
🔗 it's very brief Of course each one would be very different
🔗 but competed as an individual that's what's very old to us.
🔗 You never competed as representing the city
🔗 but you're quite right the city would take pride in your achievement
🔗 and because it was making you sort of like a hero in your lifetime almost like a
🔗 god on earth
🔗 and therefore yes some gave up a life some gave huge cash prizes some of
🔗 it actually would worship you as a member of the local community.
🔗 Well I think our Michael Phelps will get a certain amount of hero worship perhaps
🔗 not exactly as a god. Professor Paul cottage. Many thanks indeed.
🔗 Lebanon is the most religiously diverse country in the Middle East.
🔗 Forty percent of his population is Christian from one hundred seventy five to one
🔗 thousand nine hundred Christians and Muslims support a civil war
🔗 and today the country feels a so-called ISIS will bring its extremism
🔗 and violence over the border from Syria.
🔗 The two men one Christian one Muslim have found a bridge over Lebanon's old
🔗 religious divide this report from John Laurenson in Beirut.
🔗 A Christian choir grabs the last few minutes of rehearsal before
🔗 a concert in a church in Beirut in honor of Mary.
🔗 Maryam in Arabic sat in a row
🔗 and radiant like very well behaved Angels a Muslim girls choir is waiting to sing
🔗 so my name is the one I'm seventy years old.
🔗 One of the most important to molest specialized women.
🔗 After a lovely girl
🔗 is everything she's not special.
🔗 Is the face of the enunciation when according to the Bible
🔗 and according to the Qur'an an angel told a sixteen year old girl
🔗 that she was to have a child called Jesus whose name will be held in owner in this
🔗 life and the hereafter Christians believe Jesus is God Himself Muslims do not
🔗 but about the Holy Mother.
🔗 They couldn't agree more bitterly hone a Christian who's also about to perform says
🔗 Mary is important for the future of this country where over one hundred fifty
🔗 thousand people lost their lives in the interreligious civil war.
🔗 Her most important role in the world is in our country.
🔗 Because we had a lot of problems and the only common part
🔗 and are told are religion.
🔗 I'll tell you with the wonders she did right now if you go back twenty years.
🔗 This wouldn't have been possible if you told my dad twenty years ago
🔗 that we're going to have.
🔗 We're going to have a concert about the Virgin Mary with the gloves on her he would
🔗 laugh at me.
🔗 This is a wonder this is America this
🔗 concept is just one of dozens of around Mary events as they're called a few days
🔗 ago for example there was Ms Lam a Christian pilgrimage it all began ten years ago
🔗 then in two thousand
🔗 and ten Lebanon became the only country in the world to make the enunciation a bank
🔗 holiday. Thanks to two men the Muslim cleric and civil court judge Shaikh Mohammed.
🔗 MCCARRY and this Maronite Christian layman that G.L.
🔗 Could he would he be deserted to meet those he could not long after the year two
🔗 thousand at about the time I met Shaikh Mohammed I started to have a recurring
🔗 dream. I'm in a school playground. There's a large tent like a circus tent.
🔗 Inside there are benches
🔗 and on those benches there are people of all Christian denominations
🔗 and all of the religions all dressed in dark clothes all praying.
🔗 There are priests in him and also talks popes and nuns all together.
🔗 Praying in his or her own way.
🔗 You know her in a circus tent you sometimes have a hole at the top.
🔗 Where the tent is like that in the dream. Like a funnel.
🔗 With everyone looking towards that opening to the sky.
🔗 I had this exact dream every three or four months for about six years.
🔗 It is this that gave me the conviction that Christians
🔗 and Muslims can pray together to use.
🔗 The people of seventy Christian
🔗 and who's lived in other nations are in the Our Lady of show more church which is
🔗 round like a circus tent celebration begins with church bells
🔗 and the Muslim call to prayer after the boys in sings allow Akbar.
🔗 I women sings Hallelujah
🔗 out their hands for the Lord's Prayer
🔗 and leave them there to recite the fattier Shaikh Mohammed.
🔗 MCCARRY explain to me that our Father who art in heaven
🔗 and in the name of a lardy all merciful can both be recited from beginning to ends
🔗 by Christians and Muslims that compromising the beliefs of either.
🔗 Next year for the first time the main around Mary event will take place in the
🔗 Great Mosque of barracks. John Lawrence reporting.
🔗 Like given the problems inside the Labor party we were discussing earlier.
🔗 Should the conservatives take advantage
🔗 and call an alley election there isn't used to be one until twenty twenty thousand
🔗 your opinion poll by T.N.
🔗 S B M O B shows
🔗 that forty four percent think the Tories I'm a is a Bessel a different person than
🔗 Jeremy call been sixteen percent.
🔗 It also gives the Conservative Party a thirteen point lead over labor which is down
🔗 to twenty six percent.
🔗 George Eaton is the political edge of the New Statesman phrase
🔗 and Nelson is editor of The Spectator magazine
🔗 and a face of what you think the strategic considerations of the conservatives will
🔗 Teresa Mayes first ever promised when she said for the leadership with
🔗 that she would not hold an early election so if she were to go back on
🔗 that it would say something about how you over.
🔗 but then again who can deny the work to be a general election right now Labor would
🔗 lose rather badly in the Tories he gets a majority of perhaps maybe one hundred
🔗 people are saying every bit as if you wait for the boundary reviews
🔗 but if you're a conservative you think you Labor's in the mess now
🔗 and isn't likely to be much.
🔗 Enter into a three years' time I would reckon that's reason we should wait for
🔗 about a year and two people get a feeling of hers the new voting on
🔗 and if she's taking a significantly different route to David Cameron on things like
🔗 grammar schools
🔗 or abolishing the manifesto pledges in the Bill of Rights then she should perhaps
🔗 give in secret and mandate but to do so now would be an act of.
🔗 Sadistic cruelty only electricity think we've had enough of these elections.
🔗 George Eason do you think
🔗 that people lay beside a fearing what just described is a sadistic act. Absolutely.
🔗 In fact Jermy Corbin's former head of policy.
🔗 Neil Coleman was at the is going to North meeting house last night to nominate a
🔗 candidate in the leadership election and he warned that he thought
🔗 and action was coming and that Labor would suffer.
🔗 A nine hundred thirty one stout if each Now in one he said he won Labor won just
🔗 fifty two seats.
🔗 I did think they do that badly if there isn't any election
🔗 but so most M.P.'s believe it would be there WAS results in finding a three
🔗 and possibly since nine hundred thirty five
🔗 that they'd win fewer than one hundred fifty seats the GA thing is any sense
🔗 that some critics of Jamie Coburn might welcome an election because it could be the
🔗 only way to oust him as leader.
🔗 Yes there are some now saying
🔗 that most Labor M.P.'s are fairly pessimistic about Smith's chances of beating him
🔗 and they would try and hold on to what they can
🔗 but of course there's no guarantee
🔗 that Jeremy Corbyn would resign after a general election his supporters often like
🔗 to point out the Neil Kinnock survived as Labor leader despite losing in one
🔗 thousand nine hundred seven and Jeremy Corbyn said the members who decides.
🔗 I think particularly if there isn't any election he hasn't had a full term as
🔗 leader he may well be able to hang on.
🔗 And Fraser looking at the conservative side although I you know was rather upset
🔗 with what's been going on in labor.
🔗 Of course the conservative polity isn't exactly united ITA
🔗 and to resume a has quite a small majority doesn't she just twelve.
🔗 Yes And
🔗 when you think it will be which is knowing already with all her demotion
🔗 that the majority doesn't exist. I mean she is dropping the the Bill of Rights.
🔗 One of many reasons but many just simply couldn't get that
🔗 or anything significantly controversial pastor and party.
🔗 Now that make him a point fairly soon. When she gets a bit fed up of things.
🔗 Well if I didn't have an election and plan to come back with a majority fifty
🔗 or even one hundred I could do what I wanted so I suspect she will make
🔗 that calculation but not just yet.
🔗 And if that would give her her own mandate with the public as well.
🔗 Yes I mean the history of prime ministers who govern without having won an election
🔗 is pretty sad she just as she wants to be heir to Blair
🔗 but not the heir to Gordon Brown. And what kind of sense.
🔗 Do we have
🔗 that she's bringing her own policy agenda we've seen obesity at this Hinckley point
🔗 isn't that what's been happening of the northern path. Yes in fact so far.
🔗 Pretty much all we've heard from her a ways in which she's different to David
🔗 Cameron saying that she's not doing that.
🔗 Sam Her predecessor did it wasn't long ago we were watching all these leaders
🔗 debates of choosing between these three men
🔗 and now we think what's the point of leaders' debate.
🔗 If one of the guys who wins is off after a year our politics has become slightly
🔗 more presidential.
🔗 Which is why I think there's a greater need for Theresa May to secure in mandates
🔗 but just to be fair in the electorate she should only do
🔗 that after we've had a reasonable amount of time to work out who she is
🔗 and what she's about.
🔗 And George what do you think is really going on inside the parliamentary Labor
🔗 Party at the moment how active a talks about some kind of independent group being
🔗 formed not particularly active.
🔗 It's an idea that they did look at that but part of the problem is
🔗 that to form a breakaway group
🔗 and chime become the official opposition with to elect their own leader who would
🔗 have the right to stand at the dispatch box
🔗 and oppose the prime minister they'd have to have ownership of the name labor and.
🔗 Law. Is have looked into this they've consulted the speaker's office on this
🔗 and the view is that the leader owns the name and owns the party operators.
🔗 So it's not being looked at seriously although some on the labor side say.
🔗 If there were to be a wave of the selection say that could force the hand
🔗 that could force them to actually set up a new party but at the moment.
🔗 Most people most M.P.'s are tribally low to labor they say this is our party
🔗 when walking away
🔗 and they also think a new party wouldn't be an automatic cure for their for there
🔗 was I think it would struggle to poll more than fifteen to twenty percent
🔗 and it's not going to to walk into government.
🔗 Fascinating and turbulent times in British politics George Ethan.
🔗 Fraser Nelson thank you both and that brings us to today's closing headlines.
🔗 Reports from the Syrian city of Aleppo say clashes continued this morning despite
🔗 its three asked ceasefire announced by Russia. The judge.